Case Study: Natural Language Movie Queries in Google and Bing @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 1
It started with this image Justin Briggsshared via RedditIn it, someone demonstrates how a naturallanguage search performs...
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 3
So I quickly found an example whereBing performs better, with one of my favorite movies, Sideways. @dan_sh...
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 5
But being a bit obsessive, I wanted to dig deeper…. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 6
I had a hunch that the IMDB may be somehow helping Google with itsresults, so lets look at the IMDB page for “...
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 8
Look at what a cut and paste of a portion of the “Source Code” description returns…. @dan_shure / www.evolvi...
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 10
Google returns the main movie page(the “/title”) directory but Bing does not…. Why?? @dan_shure / ...
Let’s try helping Bing out a little bit… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 12
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 13
Is that the wrong URL in Bing? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 14
What is IMDB asking the engines to index? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 15
This URL@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 16
How about just searching the movie ID number in Bing?! @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 17
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 18
Ugh.@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 19
Despite popular belief, I can’t give up now. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 20
I’ll try one more sample of quoted text @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 21
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 22
Nope.Finally I get the right URL to show by adding ‘tt’ @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 23
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 24
Nice!FYI, quoted text works in Yahoo. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 25
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 26
This works in Yahoo too. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 27
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 28
Even the movie ID # gets the right result. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 29
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 30
I can get the wrong URL to show by doing this…Yahoo is doing better than Bing, but only slightly… ...
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 32
Not to beat a dead horse… but onemore thing before I move on (there’s more!)… @dan_shure / www.evol...
Google even adds the forward slash!!!! What’s going on BING?! @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 34
I’m left with questions: Is Bing ignoring the canonical?Where does this URL come from? @dan_shure / www.evolving...
Enter archive.org @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 36
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 37
IMDB started 302 redirecting in October 2003 @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 38
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 39
Let’s go back to Bing and look…. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 40
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 41
DOH!! And…. How do they do with a (pretty damn obvious) naturallanguage search for the Grinch Stole Christm...
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 43
Miserable. Epic. Fail. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 44
Let’s ask Google who stole Christmas… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 45
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 46
It’s a Christmas celebration in this house. Let’s look at one moreexample, Sherlock Holmes… @dan_shure / w...
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 48
The main movie page (“/title”) doesnot rank in Bing for Sherlock Holmes either… @dan_shure / www....
That sucked….Why does “Sideways” do so well? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 50
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 51
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 52
I can’t find the wrong URL in Bing’s index for Sideways.Perhaps this is why it outperformed Google… ...
The main movie pages in IMDB carry some serious ranking weight… If Bing is double indexing and can’teven return the ri...
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 55
Not the pages Bing returns though…. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 56
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 57
I’ll try cutting some text from theSherlock Holmes movie description and searching in Bing… @dan_shure /...
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 59
That’s practically an exact match ofthe movie title, yet other pages are ranking about the IMDB page!! @dan_sh...
One more thing in Google…My friend the ‘related:’ search operator… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 61
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 62
Yup. Google returns strong related writer and movie sites. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 63
@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 64
15 “Source Code” movie specific pages in fact. (Does Bing even have a ‘related:’ search fun...
Conclusion: Two Quick Takeaways @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 66
1. Check your indexation in Bing.Even though you’ve added an canonical and redirected an old URL to a new,this doesn’t mea...
2. Pay Attention to “Entities”The whole things that sparked this post, was Justin’s tweet andpost about “entities”. This s...
Thanks… hope this was fun and informative Dan Shure@dan_shurewww.evolvingseo.com @dan_shure / www.e...
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Natural Language Movie Queries - Bing vs Google

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  • 1. Case Study: Natural Language Movie Queries in Google and Bing @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 1
  • 2. It started with this image Justin Briggsshared via RedditIn it, someone demonstrates how a naturallanguage search performs much better inGoogle vs Bing and Yahoo, at identifying themovie “Source Code”. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 2
  • 3. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 3
  • 4. So I quickly found an example whereBing performs better, with one of my favorite movies, Sideways. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 4
  • 5. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 5
  • 6. But being a bit obsessive, I wanted to dig deeper…. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 6
  • 7. I had a hunch that the IMDB may be somehow helping Google with itsresults, so lets look at the IMDB page for “Source Code” @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 7
  • 8. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 8
  • 9. Look at what a cut and paste of a portion of the “Source Code” description returns…. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 9
  • 10. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 10
  • 11. Google returns the main movie page(the “/title”) directory but Bing does not…. Why?? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 11
  • 12. Let’s try helping Bing out a little bit… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 12
  • 13. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 13
  • 14. Is that the wrong URL in Bing? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 14
  • 15. What is IMDB asking the engines to index? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 15
  • 16. This URL@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 16
  • 17. How about just searching the movie ID number in Bing?! @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 17
  • 18. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 18
  • 19. Ugh.@dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 19
  • 20. Despite popular belief, I can’t give up now. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 20
  • 21. I’ll try one more sample of quoted text @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 21
  • 22. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 22
  • 23. Nope.Finally I get the right URL to show by adding ‘tt’ @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 23
  • 24. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 24
  • 25. Nice!FYI, quoted text works in Yahoo. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 25
  • 26. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 26
  • 27. This works in Yahoo too. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 27
  • 28. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 28
  • 29. Even the movie ID # gets the right result. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 29
  • 30. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 30
  • 31. I can get the wrong URL to show by doing this…Yahoo is doing better than Bing, but only slightly… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 31
  • 32. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 32
  • 33. Not to beat a dead horse… but onemore thing before I move on (there’s more!)… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 33
  • 34. Google even adds the forward slash!!!! What’s going on BING?! @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 34
  • 35. I’m left with questions: Is Bing ignoring the canonical?Where does this URL come from? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 35
  • 36. Enter archive.org @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 36
  • 37. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 37
  • 38. IMDB started 302 redirecting in October 2003 @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 38
  • 39. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 39
  • 40. Let’s go back to Bing and look…. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 40
  • 41. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 41
  • 42. DOH!! And…. How do they do with a (pretty damn obvious) naturallanguage search for the Grinch Stole Christmas?? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 42
  • 43. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 43
  • 44. Miserable. Epic. Fail. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 44
  • 45. Let’s ask Google who stole Christmas… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 45
  • 46. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 46
  • 47. It’s a Christmas celebration in this house. Let’s look at one moreexample, Sherlock Holmes… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 47
  • 48. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 48
  • 49. The main movie page (“/title”) doesnot rank in Bing for Sherlock Holmes either… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 49
  • 50. That sucked….Why does “Sideways” do so well? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 50
  • 51. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 51
  • 52. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 52
  • 53. I can’t find the wrong URL in Bing’s index for Sideways.Perhaps this is why it outperformed Google… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 53
  • 54. The main movie pages in IMDB carry some serious ranking weight… If Bing is double indexing and can’teven return the right one which has all the links juice and authority, is this why Google outperforms??? @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 54
  • 55. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 55
  • 56. Not the pages Bing returns though…. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 56
  • 57. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 57
  • 58. I’ll try cutting some text from theSherlock Holmes movie description and searching in Bing… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 58
  • 59. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 59
  • 60. That’s practically an exact match ofthe movie title, yet other pages are ranking about the IMDB page!! @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 60
  • 61. One more thing in Google…My friend the ‘related:’ search operator… @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 61
  • 62. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 62
  • 63. Yup. Google returns strong related writer and movie sites. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 63
  • 64. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 64
  • 65. 15 “Source Code” movie specific pages in fact. (Does Bing even have a ‘related:’ search function?) @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 65
  • 66. Conclusion: Two Quick Takeaways @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 66
  • 67. 1. Check your indexation in Bing.Even though you’ve added an canonical and redirected an old URL to a new,this doesn’t mean either engine is going to get it right. Bing is seriouslymessing up the right result here. Check for duplicate content issues andadjust accordingly. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 67
  • 68. 2. Pay Attention to “Entities”The whole things that sparked this post, was Justin’s tweet andpost about “entities”. This study shows (to me) obvious movementtowards an entity based algarhythm.I suggest reading Justin’s post to get a better understanding ofentities. @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 68
  • 69. Thanks… hope this was fun and informative Dan Shure@dan_shurewww.evolvingseo.com @dan_shure / www.evolvingseo.com 69

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